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Author Subject: ATPOWER ITB's GROUP BUY
ATPOWER

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Post #1
Hi, we are currently manufacturing a direct to head individual throttle body set for the XU10 engine and we want to offer you guys the first sets.

If you don't know or haven't heard of us before, we manufacture shaftless ITB's which are all made in the UK in our workshop out of 6082 billet aluminium and stainless steel parts. Check out https://www.atpowershop.co.uk to see our other kits for a better understanding.

The 306 throttle bodies we have developed are using our shaftless 45mm individuals mounted to an adaptor that bolts directly to your head so no messing about installing them. We are hoping to utilise the standard fuel rail to keep costs down but offer our stainless rail as an extra if required. The system will be available with different length extensions and ram pipes so you can customise your install to suit your needs. The price of the throttles will include everything you need so no extra costs for the linkage parts ect. all you will need is management.

Although you guys will be the first to have these we are fitting the first actual set to our 205 with the gti6 lump to get some results and iron out any issues prior to you receiving your throttles.

As we are sponsoring FCS this year we are offering the French range of our ITB’s in group buys with a huge 25% discount off RRP, this includes this set even though it is a brand new never sold before set, so there is a good deal to be had. You will be able to see and have a feel of the set at FCS as well.

The group buy will be available from now until the FCS Show, unfortunately we won’t be able to offer any sets until after the show due to validation but you will expect to have them shortly afterwards so you can enjoy the noise for the rest of the summer. Thumbs up

All the group buys are for 10 sets only, this is based on the first 10 payments so if you want a set put your name down in a list on this thread but you will need to pay for the them for your set to be reserved, you will need to quote you are from this forum when you call up to pay as its only available to forum members and won’t be advertised anywhere else.

I will get some pictures up soon as I can of the actual set but think I have a CAD image you guys can take a look at, but if you check out our site you can see the quality of our other successful sets.

Now for what you've been waiting for... Price
We are going to be selling this kit at a retail of around the £1200 mark inclusive of VAT but for the Group buy we will be selling the kit to you guys at £887 inclusive of VAT with an additional delivery charge of £15. Big grin
I hope this group buy goes well and look forward to hearing your feedback and comments.
Thanks Ant

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 16:10
ATPOWER

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Post #2
CAD IMAGE


This is not the final design but a mid point as soon as i can i will get you some pictures.

cheers ANT

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 16:11
atterz

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Post #3
Im impressed, what are the provisions in place for the ICV, MAP sensor etc? Im assuming that it will be standalone management required?

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 16:28
welshpug!

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Post #4
how long are you making the inlet and does it have a nice curve to it so it doesn't hit the bonnet?

or are they going to be classic sharp angle out of the port and point too high so you can only use short trumpets?

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 16:29
ATPOWER

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Post #5
you will require stand alone management to run these yes so you will throw away your IAC and MAP

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 16:30
welshpug!

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Post #6
atterz wrote:
Im impressed, what are the provisions in place for the ICV, MAP sensor etc? Im assuming that it will be standalone management required?


you don't use the ICV and map on itb's.

though you can use the map purely for atmospheric correction.

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 16:30
ATPOWER

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Post #7
No no no... our throttles have the 30 degrees of bend in the housing of the throttles so, you can run rams all the way to the slam panel if you wish and you will have bonnet clearance.
take a look at our other ITB sets Welshpug you will see the angle in the housing that we can machine. this is the second highest degree change we have machined for a standard part, our hayabusa 50s run a 32 degree curve.

cheers Ant

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 16:36
honestly3k

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Post #8
For those of us wondering. What sort of power/torque gains can one expect to see on an otherwise standard engine (assuming the map is half decent) ?

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 16:43
welshpug!

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Post #9
hmm, I'll give these a miss then, not ideal having that sharp a bend in a short space, would be more beneficial to have a much larger radius to the curve and shorter trumpets.


bloody expensive too Shock

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 16:46
ATPOWER

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Post #10
our other systems have had great results on independent customers cars and race cars but thanks for your opinion. the power figures will tell all when we run the first one. if the figures are down due to any design issues the issues will be resolved.

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 17:06
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I look forward to seeing the results of these...Yes

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 17:16
bigbadbowen

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Post #12
The angle of a 6 engine is usually different in a 205 to 6 dependant on how it's bee installed ? May pay you to do install on a 6 or rallye as well so you don't end up with something that doesn't fit ? (205 usually has no powering steering pump)

Just a thought Thumbs up
Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 17:25
welshpug!

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Post #13
nope, the angle of an XU engine is the same in a 205 as it is in a 306.

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 18:09
bigbadbowen

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Post #14
Depends how you fit it to clear the bulk head with the exhaust ? Extending the lower fork changes the angle ? Hence the reason rich did a different supercharger inlet for a 205 ?

Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 18:15
aknight

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Post #15
If you sort me out a loan car you could use my rallye as a test install - free complete setup afterwards..??
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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 18:20
bigbadbowen

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Can have my rallye as long as you like as it's not my daily driver Thumbs up
Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 18:21
welshpug!

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Post #17
nobody extends the fork these days, that's cowboy workmanship, the reason rich needed to make a different inlet is that the 205 bonnetline is much lower than a 306.

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 18:28
bigbadbowen

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Either way I still think it needs to be done on a car they are trying to sell for ? Yes
Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 18:34
welshpug!

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Post #19
of course Smile

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 18:58
bigbadbowen

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Blimey must be the first time you have almost agreed with welshy LOL
Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 19:32
ATPOWER

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Post #21
The install in our 205 has been done correctly and when measured the 306 has more room unless the 205 has an auto bonnet iirc. we have access to a GTI6 as well and the system will be measured on this also but thanks for the offers though. Smile

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 20:36
welshpug!

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Post #22
auto bonnet wont help, the bulge is at the back.

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 20:38
ATPOWER

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Post #23
ok thanks for clearing that. well as said above, any issues will be resolved before release.

thanks Ant

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 20:48
miles

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Post #24
Yes allot of people do tilt the engine, Allot of the well known Pug Specialist do to this day, still gives me a job of putting them all right.
What is the Injector position, Looks to close to the inlets to me for any decent power

But the question, why should I buy these over Jenvey's and what are the pro's and con's

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 21:09
ryangti6

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Post #25
This is probably a stupid question but doesnt "direct to head" mean there is no inlet manifold?

I know these are highly regarded in the Ford world so will be interesting to see the results.

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Posted 5th Apr 2012 at 21:18

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